Note to all members
We are currently preparing to change the setup of this forum to focus more on imaginative & creative gnosticism, because we feel we should distance ourselves from the way thegodabovegod.com is increasingly aligning itself with conspiracy thinking.
We respect Miguel's choice of course, but that does not mean that we agree with it. We feel that conspiracy thinking is contrary to gnosis. It's simply not where we want to go.

If anyone is interested to continue a forum affiliated to thegodabovegod.com I am willing to help. Maybe you could start using the relevant part of this forum as a basis. Please contact me (Lúthien) if you are interested.

We've not yet fully decided on how to proceed; but I think that we should in any case cut the link with thegodabovegod.com (including the page there that links to the forum). We will also re-structure the forum, and put the old Ilsaluntë Valion board that focuses on Tolkienian gnosis up front again.
I will update this message as soon as there is something new to say.

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by Lúthien
Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:30 pm
Forum: Not Specified Further
Topic: Discussion re. Markus Davidsen’s thesis
Replies: 17
Views: 6967

Discussion re. Markus Davidsen’s thesis

Also I kind of stumbled into Markus Davidson’s thesis on Tolkien spirituality which is why I’m here. I can't find anything online... :hmm: That's because his surname is spelled Davids e n, not Davids o n :D - he's from Denmark. Here's his page on the Leiden University site What's this thesis about ...
by Lúthien
Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:15 pm
Forum: Not Specified Further
Topic: Discussion re. Markus Davidsen’s thesis
Replies: 17
Views: 6967

Discussion re. Markus Davidsen’s thesis

I understand the need for keeping some of the board not for the public. But I would be curious to learn about others experiences in communing with the Valar. Great! I'll get back to you asap about that. When I was reading the Silmarillion the emanation of the Valar as the thoughts of Eru Ilúvatar a...
by Lúthien
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:53 am
Forum: Books & Articles
Topic: John V. Panella
Replies: 23
Views: 4129

Re: John V. Panella

Thanks, that is something to look into!
by Lúthien
Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:52 pm
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: There is no easy way to tell it, but there's something you need to know...
Replies: 38
Views: 9709

Re: There is no easy way to tell it, but there's something you need to know...

starwater wrote:
Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:05 am
I admit to being curious about what was interesting to Mildir about the timing of his account's being activated...
As far as I am concerned this was just a matter of me being rather pre-occupied with other things, so that I had neglected my duties tending to the forum somewhat ... sorry :blush2:
by Lúthien
Sun May 20, 2018 5:20 pm
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: Discussion split off from ‘Gondolin music’
Replies: 53
Views: 17804

Re: Gondolin music

In fact, I was being ironic... :) Ah, that explains - I often don’t get irony ... I'd like to take this opportunity (...) No need to thank me ... I’d be happy if it works out. It’s sometimes hard to figure out what’s the best thing to do, with people having different temperaments and backgrounds sh...
by Lúthien
Sun May 20, 2018 5:10 pm
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: Discussion split off from ‘Gondolin music’
Replies: 53
Views: 17804

Re: Gondolin music

Everything I say in the above message is not factual, but unverified personal gnosis . It lies in my heart and no one has to believe that anything of it is real . Oh, it’s not about “real or not”; it is about whether or not it’s (claimed to be) factual (scientifically, objectively falsifiable). I a...
by Lúthien
Sun May 20, 2018 6:18 am
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: Discussion split off from ‘Gondolin music’
Replies: 53
Views: 17804

Re: Gondolin music

Mildir wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 12:23 pm
Those posts will haunt me forever! :sorry:
I don’t think it’s that dramatic ;)


Sorry, I haven’t had time yet to move things around. Will do as soon as I have the opportunity.
by Lúthien
Tue May 15, 2018 2:03 pm
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: Discussion split off from ‘Gondolin music’
Replies: 53
Views: 17804

Re: Gondolin music

Some of them might hurt the feelings of deeply religious members of the forum, if there are any. FYI - this is a gnostic forum. If people’s feelings would be hurt by saying things that go against dogma, then this forum is the worst place for them to be. That is, also apart from whatever you wish to...
by Lúthien
Tue May 15, 2018 6:19 am
Forum: Sound & Music
Topic: Gondolin music
Replies: 7
Views: 6974

Re: Gondolin music

I split off the off-topic discussion.
Remain on topic in this tread, please.
by Lúthien
Tue May 15, 2018 5:28 am
Forum: Sound & Music
Topic: Gondolin music
Replies: 7
Views: 6974

Re: Gondolin music

No, Lúthien. Mildir simply pointed out the typo, and Dave explained why he sometimes makes the same mistake in writing. My reason for quoting Mildir's correction on Nost-na-Lothion was not at all concerned with the typo. Rather, my argument with it was that I assumed that he acknowledged it in his ...
by Lúthien
Sat May 12, 2018 3:14 pm
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: Discussion split off from ‘Gondolin music’
Replies: 53
Views: 17804

Re: Gondolin music

And by the way: I think you wanted to write "Nost-na-Lothi o n". :) I didn't know, I just thought Nost-na-Lothian might be a form accidentally treated as canonical by Lúthien, that is why I took the liberty of flagging the typo. Of course I don't expect anyone's posts to be typo-free, I can only im...
by Lúthien
Fri May 11, 2018 6:43 pm
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: Discussion split off from ‘Gondolin music’
Replies: 53
Views: 17804

Re: Gondolin music

@Mildir, if the soundcloud link doesn't work for you, try this one: (link)
by Lúthien
Fri May 11, 2018 6:37 pm
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: Discussion split off from ‘Gondolin music’
Replies: 53
Views: 17804

Re: Gondolin music

Where his and our approach to the matter seem to diverge is how we define experiences such as yours. Exactly, yes. This has been complicating the conversations that Dave and I had with Mildir until now - no offence intended, Mildir. I'm interested in what he has to say, but there's a kind of commun...
by Lúthien
Fri May 11, 2018 5:34 pm
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: Discussion split off from ‘Gondolin music’
Replies: 53
Views: 17804

Re: Gondolin music

Hi, thanks for your answers. It is good to read them. Elaran, what you say about ‘truth / real’ vs. ‘fantasy’ - that is indeed the crucial point. It’s so much at the heart of our thinking that most people don’t even see it. Following people like Stephan Hoeller, I’ve come to adapt using the terms ‘t...
by Lúthien
Fri May 04, 2018 7:51 pm
Forum: Not Specified Further
Topic: Tolkien as "Sci-Fi"
Replies: 15
Views: 5031

Re: Tolkien as "Sci-Fi"

Maybe it’s not the first thing you’d think of, but I found Carl Sagan’s novel “Contact” very thought-provoking, especially from someone like Sagan who is famous for his skepticism. It’s the same story from which that movie with Jodie Foster was made; but the movie lacks the almost Leaf-by-Niggle-lik...