Note to all members
We are currently preparing to change the setup of this forum to focus more on imaginative & creative gnosticism, because we feel we should distance ourselves from the way thegodabovegod.com is increasingly aligning itself with conspiracy thinking.
We respect Miguel's choice of course, but that does not mean that we agree with it. We feel that conspiracy thinking is contrary to gnosis. It's simply not where we want to go.

If anyone is interested to continue a forum affiliated to thegodabovegod.com I am willing to help. Maybe you could start using the relevant part of this forum as a basis. Please contact me (Lúthien) if you are interested.

We've not yet fully decided on how to proceed; but I think that we should in any case cut the link with thegodabovegod.com (including the page there that links to the forum). We will also re-structure the forum, and put the old Ilsaluntë Valion board that focuses on Tolkienian gnosis up front again.
I will update this message as soon as there is something new to say.

Search found 441 matches

by Lúthien
Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:12 am
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: The Elokh from Mars & their rockets
Replies: 16
Views: 6259

Re: The Elokh from Mars & their rockets

I can only repeat Meneldur's Carl Sagan quote: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

Stating that two Italian guys think otherwise does not amount to extraordinary evidence.
by Lúthien
Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:08 pm
Forum: Gnosis in religious traditions
Topic: The Basics on Gnosticism
Replies: 18
Views: 8108

Re: The Basics on Gnosticism

Moderation note: I split off Mildir's posts about Mars to a separate topic in 'The Edge' [link] for being offtopic.
by Lúthien
Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:30 am
Forum: Not Specified Further
Topic: Tolkien as "Sci-Fi"
Replies: 15
Views: 5031

Re: Tolkien as "Sci-Fi"

I'm an odd one here: I've never had that overarching 'disbelief' that one is supposed to suspend in order to properly enjoy a story. Rather, to me everything perceptible is an "instance of itself", so it is very easy for me to enter into a story. Exactly! Well, it’s the same for me, apart from that...
by Lúthien
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:26 am
Forum: Gnosis in religious traditions
Topic: The Basics on Gnosticism
Replies: 18
Views: 8108

Re: The Basics on Gnosticism

Hi Neophyte, I am not an expert in 'regular gnosticism' either, but to summarise my understanding: The gnostic view is that Jehovah is indeed not the true God but a demiurge. Here's a description of (one of the) the Gnostic creation myths, The Divine Sophia A short summary of that would be: In the b...
by Lúthien
Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:25 am
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: The Elokh from Mars & their rockets
Replies: 16
Views: 6259

Re: The Basics on Gnosticism

I, for one, don't think he was a deity at all: there is a wealth of historical evidence confirming that he was one of the Elokh, a warlike people which once inhabited Mars. Does that sound impossible to you ? :D Have you ever seen what Babylonian sculptors used to depict ? ;) :hmm: Well, what do YO...
by Lúthien
Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:17 am
Forum: Not Specified Further
Topic: Tolkien as "Sci-Fi"
Replies: 15
Views: 5031

Re: Tolkien as "Sci-Fi"

btw, not sure if you (Mildir) know, but Tolkien did attempt to write a kind of SF story - though it's of course entangled with the rest of his Legendarium: The Notion Club Papers.
by Lúthien
Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:12 am
Forum: Not Specified Further
Topic: Tolkien as "Sci-Fi"
Replies: 15
Views: 5031

Re: Tolkien as "Sci-Fi"

Re-reading this topic after several years, I must admit that the idea that I have of "contemporary science fiction" is probably hugely simplified. We had a stack of old SF paperbacks at home, which I all devoured when I was in my teens. They were mostly from the 'Golden Age': authors like Isaac Asim...
by Lúthien
Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:11 am
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: There is no easy way to tell it, but there's something you need to know...
Replies: 38
Views: 9709

Re: There is no easy way to tell it, but there's something you need to know...

@Dave, very well spoken as usual! First, I would say do not worry too much whether the non-ordinary experiences you describe are "inappropriate". I’ll just add here that the same goes for me, but as I mentioned earlier it’s good to keep in mind that your experiences might be difficult to communicate...
by Lúthien
Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:01 am
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: There is no easy way to tell it, but there's something you need to know...
Replies: 38
Views: 9709

Re: There is no easy way to tell it, but there's something you need to know...

Mildir wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:12 am
No, Lúthien, I didn't want to disturb him. :D
I just hoped he might pass by soon, but I think it's better to let fate decide... :)
Having known him for some time, I think that it’s more than likely he’s engrossed in something. I know because I’m like him in that respect :)

Edit: Q.E.D. :D
by Lúthien
Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:52 am
Forum: Personalities
Topic: Do Republicans and pedophile priests share the same vile sexual morality.
Replies: 14
Views: 9108

Re: Do Republicans and pedophile priests share the same vile sexual morality.

Looks like in some respects I'm more American than you... :D Possibly ... I’m in any case not American at all, because I’m a Europeana like you :) Have you ever listened to any song by Enya? :) I suspect you already know her. I do, yes. I find their lyrics interesting, but the music as such does no...
by Lúthien
Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:07 pm
Forum: Personalities
Topic: Do Republicans and pedophile priests share the same vile sexual morality.
Replies: 14
Views: 9108

Re: Do Republicans and pedophile priests share the same vile sexual morality.

Good point re. worshipping! I’ve always felt a distaste for that particular blind dedication and “I’m not worthy” attitude... any person, or indeed any deity who would love that sort of grovelling must be a jerk indeed. Funny, but I was just thinking about this today in another context: I love many ...
by Lúthien
Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:49 pm
Forum: Mildir’s Gnosis
Topic: There is no easy way to tell it, but there's something you need to know...
Replies: 38
Views: 9709

Re: There is no easy way to tell it, but there's something you need to know...

I think that any attempt to oust the current US president will be met with enthusiasm from our American forum members - at least the ones I know :) And the same goes for me. Re - “leaving behind the description of meeting the Eldar and moving on to substantial things like the nature of life, the uni...
by Lúthien
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:42 am
Forum: Personalities
Topic: Do Republicans and pedophile priests share the same vile sexual morality.
Replies: 14
Views: 9108

Re: Do Republicans and pedophile priests share the same vile sexual morality.

Hi, Meneldur, I'm new here but may I tell something? :) Humans "apotheosize" everything that help the dark part of their soul think of itself as cool, intelligent and dominant. That part is evil (what of evil is still left in every man) and evil needs to think of itself that way, otherwise it shoul...