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by Lúthien
Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:14 pm
Forum: The Central Myths
Topic: The Sethian Mythos
Replies: 20
Views: 2804

Re: The Sethian Mythos

So, some replies. I hope it's not too fragmented. Well, don't think too hard about it Lúthien... these things are still very hotly debated. ... ... (Many of the questions that have plagued philosophy have ended up being a ping pong match back and forth between the objective and the subjective.) I'm ...
by Lúthien
Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:23 am
Forum: The Central Myths
Topic: The Sethian Mythos
Replies: 20
Views: 2804

Re: The Sethian Mythos

About Jungian psychology including supernatural: he made a development in that sense. At first he did not take anything supernatural into account, but his experiences around the time of the Red Book (1913-1920(?)) changed his mind. I think Lance quotes him somewhere, referring to something Jung said...
by Lúthien
Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:13 am
Forum: The Central Myths
Topic: The Sethian Mythos
Replies: 20
Views: 2804

Re: The Sethian Mythos

Copy that about Freud, Taurandir! It's very interesting to read about Jung and Freud breaking up in Jung's "Memories, Dreams, Reflections". While the common opinion is that the 'scientific' Freud dumped his 'not so scientific' pupil Jung because Jung was a bit wacko; in that book you can read a whol...
by Lúthien
Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:34 pm
Forum: The Central Myths
Topic: The Sethian Mythos
Replies: 20
Views: 2804

Re: The Sethian Mythos

Thank you for that. This is most useful, maybe I should try and explain why. Like with everyone, everything that happened in my life prior to coming across all this has set me up with a certain mindset. Part of that is an inner contrast between the rational way of thinking that I've always had and t...
by Lúthien
Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:57 pm
Forum: The Central Myths
Topic: The Sethian Mythos
Replies: 20
Views: 2804

Re: The Sethian Mythos

Cool, I'll have a look. Edit - Actually, after having read your post twice I still cannot connect the dots. Supposedly I miss some contextual knowledge, for instance about the Sethian mythos, as the others also suggest? I do know a few things about Jungian typology (it was once used at a training we...
by Lúthien
Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:49 pm
Forum: The Edge
Topic: The Ironic Imperative
Replies: 32
Views: 3072

Re: The Ironic Imperative

Just to make it explicit in order to remove all room for doubt: no, I don't think that Tolkien isn't above criticism. I wouldn't know why. Though I do agree with Dave that the notion of criticising Tolkien makes little sense here because Tolkien is an author, and this is not a literary criticism for...
by Lúthien
Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:11 am
Forum: The Edge
Topic: The Ironic Imperative
Replies: 32
Views: 3072

Re: The Ironic Imperative

I guess what I was really asking is if Tolkien (or his message) is beyond criticism. Aw, surely you weren't thinking that I was dissing Harold Bloom because he had the audacity to be critical of the untouchable JRR Tolkien? :o IF you did, please re-read what has been said. I'm honestly quite surpri...
by Lúthien
Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:49 am
Forum: The Edge
Topic: The Ironic Imperative
Replies: 32
Views: 3072

Re: The Ironic Imperative

I guess I can stop defending Harold Bloom because he certainly doesn't need it, but I guess it's kind of difficult to remain quiet while a sort of personal hero is being misrepresented. However, in the interest of not creating bad feelings I'll stand down. Don't get me wrong: I very much appreciate...
by Lúthien
Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:24 pm
Forum: The Edge
Topic: The Ironic Imperative
Replies: 32
Views: 3072

Re: The Ironic Imperative

Along the same lines that Skookum pointed out, I think this may be an example of type prejudice. (...) I know that it often plays a role in critics of Jung's work, so it may be a factor in regards to critics of Tolkien's work as well. S) Sorry that it took me so long to get around to answering your...
by Lúthien
Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:56 pm
Forum: The Edge
Topic: The Ironic Imperative
Replies: 32
Views: 3072

Re: The Ironic Imperative

This topic is getting too complex. Maybe we should split it. Even the original point consists of two parts: one is about irony dominating contemporary culture, the other about whether or not there exists a link between that cultural ironic position and the cultural appreciation of the imagination. I...
by Lúthien
Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:06 pm
Forum: The Edge
Topic: The Ironic Imperative
Replies: 32
Views: 3072

Re: The Ironic Imperative

I'll try and rewrite that post I lost. The first thing that I wanted to say is that I'm surprised by the answers. I'm very glad with Taurandir's defence of Mr. Bloom, because I think there is nothing better than to have a (slightly) negative opinion refuted. I love it when that happens, in any case....
by Lúthien
Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:13 pm
Forum: The Edge
Topic: The Ironic Imperative
Replies: 32
Views: 3072

Re: The Ironic Imperative

Ah yes, I read that one indeed :)
by Lúthien
Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:45 am
Forum: The Edge
Topic: The Ironic Imperative
Replies: 32
Views: 3072

Re: The Ironic Imperative

Well, philosophy is indeed a qualitative business. But that doesn't mean that it is necessary arbitrary and capricious. Maybe you could see it as establishing a framework to understand the world with. I'm not so very well read in philosophy either. I read quite a bit of Plato because I enjoyed it (I...
by Lúthien
Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:54 am
Forum: The Edge
Topic: The Ironic Imperative
Replies: 32
Views: 3072

Re: The Ironic Imperative

[...] But every good thing can be taken too far (isn't that part of the dynamic of Hegelian dialectics?)... I be bowin' out o' dis discussion now, y'all be startin' to speak Farsi on me. I still be listenin', I jus' be in da shade wit' my corn-cob pipe down by da crick. ;) No need to bail out :) So...
by Lúthien
Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:44 am
Forum: The Edge
Topic: The Ironic Imperative
Replies: 32
Views: 3072

Re: The Ironic Imperative

Well, that IS interesting. As I said, I lost a whole post yesterday answering to the first part of your initial reply. I'm actually very excited that you know so much about him, because this touches on one of the 'abrasive' issues in culture that I keep returning to because I cannot figure out how t...