Micro/Macro-Cosmos

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Micro/Macro-Cosmos

Post by Elaran » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:42 am

I always had quite the scientific approach to the world. Knowing that we are not even a speck of dust in the Universe (after seeing so many things like this (I know, it's mass, not size)) was a very humbling experience, to the point I, at times, fell into this state in which I seemed to care about nothing. And I'm saying "was" because, I realised recently that there is more to it than this. Perhaps Lúthien's example from the Silmarillion would be fitting here. We were talking about Tolkien's use of language, his skill with it, and how well he built up to Fingolfin challenging Morgoth:
Now news came to Hithlum that Dorthonion was lost and the sons of Finarfin overthrown, and that the sons of Fëanor were driven from their lands. Then Fingolfin beheld (as it seemed to him) the utter ruin of the Noldor, and the defeat beyond redress of all their houses; and filled with wrath and despair he mounted upon Rochallor his great horse and rode forth alone, and none might restrain him. He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust, and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking that Oromë himself was come: for a great madness of rage was upon him, so that his eyes shone like the eyes of the Valar. Thus he came alone to Angband's gates, and he sounded his horn, and smote once more upon the brazen doors, and challenged Morgoth to come forth to single combat.
And Morgoth came.
Those three words are heavier than the whole paragraph that came before them, or as Lúthien puts it, "... they have the weight of an entire world." Then let's think of the paragraph as the world indeed, and the last sentence as... atoms even. The fact that one is smaller, does not lessen its importance or value. On the contrary, the world owes it existence to atoms, perhaps just as the complexity of the paragraph owing to the underlying simple "good versus evil" concept of the sentence. Then maybe, our existence gives meaning to the Universe. Or in Sagan's words, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself." And the Universe as a whole is indeed greater than our minds can comprehend, but let's not forget: As above, so below. Heights and depths, within and outside. (x)

Just some random thoughts that I thought I could share here.
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Re: Micro/Macro-Cosmos

Post by Taurandir » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:17 pm

When Lúthien and I were discussing something very similar she sent me this:
Yes! 'wish-fulfilment dreams' we spin to cheat
our timid hearts and ugly Fact defeat!
Whence came the wish, and whence the power to dream,
or some things fair and others ugly deem?
All wishes are not idle, nor in vain
fulfilment we devise -- for pain is pain,
not for itself to be desired, but ill;
or else to strive or to subdue the will
alike were graceless; and of Evil this
alone is deadly certain: Evil is.

Blessed are the timid hearts that evil hate
that quail in its shadow, and yet shut the gate;
that seek no parley, and in guarded room,
though small and bate, upon a clumsy loom
weave tissues gilded by the far-off day
hoped and believed in under Shadow's sway.

Blessed are the men of Noah's race that build
their little arks, though frail and poorly filled,
and steer through winds contrary towards a wraith,
a rumour of a harbour guessed by faith.

Blessed are the legend-makers with their rhyme
of things not found within recorded time.
It is not they that have forgot the Night,
or bid us flee to organized delight,
in lotus-isles of economic bliss
forswearing souls to gain a Circe-kiss
(and counterfeit at that, machine-produced,
bogus seduction of the twice-seduced).
Such isles they saw afar, and ones more fair,
and those that hear them yet may yet beware.
They have seen Death and ultimate defeat,
and yet they would not in despair retreat,
but oft to victory have tuned the lyre
and kindled hearts with legendary fire,
illuminating Now and dark Hath-been
with light of suns as yet by no man seen.

I would that I might with the minstrels sing
and stir the unseen with a throbbing string.
I would be with the mariners of the deep
that cut their slender planks on mountains steep
and voyage upon a vague and wandering quest,
for some have passed beyond the fabled West.
I would with the beleaguered fools be told,
that keep an inner fastness where their gold,
impure and scanty, yet they loyally bring
to mint in image blurred of distant king,
or in fantastic banners weave the sheen
heraldic emblems of a lord unseen.
-Raúl

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Re: Micro/Macro-Cosmos

Post by Elaran » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:26 pm

Ah, yes, Mythopoeia, lovely.
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Re: Micro/Macro-Cosmos

Post by Meneldur Olvarion » Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:55 am

Thanks for your ​insightful post, Elaran. Like you I also have a logical and scientific worldview (it kind of goes along with being on the autism spectrum), yet I've also had non-ordinary experiences, often assisted by entheogens. I am glad you decided to join and hope to see more of your posts.

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Re: Micro/Macro-Cosmos

Post by Elaran » Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:36 pm

My thanks, Meneldur. I am glad as well to be here. And I, too, am quite interested in reading about your experiences. For unlike the nonsensical ramblings of the airheads as you call them, I am already certain that what you offer will make sense, very much so.
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