Do Republicans and pedophile priests share the same vile sexual morality.

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Do Republicans and pedophile priests share the same vile sexual morality.

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:09 am

Do Republicans and pedophile priests share the same vile sexual morality.

I wrote this for the religious forum but it seems to be a question that I should have put to Republicans as they are exhibiting the same vile morality as pedophile priests and the religious who ignore morality to feed their tribal needs.

Do you see any difference in the immoral and unethical position of both groups?

How and why can people ignore their God’s immoral ways?

I find it quite strange that Christian, Muslims and Jews can ignore the immoral ways that their God is shown to have in the Bible, Qur’an and Talmud.

If you have read any of the critical books on God, you will have seen God described with some rather disingenuous terms that, if applied to a man, would see that man executed by any moral government in quick order. The Buddhist saying that if you ever meet God, kill him seems quite fitting. Frankly, I think killing him without making him suffer for a time would be too good for him. If hell were real, that would be a better end for him as mankind would surely need to see that torture to gain real closure for God’s crimes against humanity. This aside.

I can appreciate the value for society of local churches, mosques and temples but cannot fathom why lying priests, preachers and imams try to sell their God as a good God, when he is obviously more satanic than Satan. Perhaps scripture speak at least one truth in that the whole world would be deceived by Satan and his lying preachers and imams. Not that I believe in Satan.

As a Gnostic Christian, my focus has been to try to become a Parfait, a perfected moral man, using the methods Jesus taught. It has been a long climb up Jacob’s ladder and apotheosis put me up one rung and I have tried to climb higher, but seem to have stalled due to my inability to find arguments that are persuasive enough to loosen Satan’s grip on the minds of Christians, Muslims and Jews. Their need of fellowship is stronger than their work on their moral sense and they stay in their religions even though they know that their God is immoral and not worthy of their idol worship. This Gnostic Christian truth is not a flattering epithet for God, which is likely what cause their destruction by Inquisition.

The truth hurts the religious even when given with a loving touch. I am not that good at that but have seen good honest lovers of Christ get verbally abused by theists. They think hate is motivating those who speak against their God even when love is the motivator. Hate is born of love, and the Gnostic hate of God is justified on moral grounds, and the attempted correction of a believers moral sense and their thinking is done out of love. They forget that that is how Jesus was and how that love driven expression of hate with what he saw around him almost got him killed at the hands of the Jews. So the myth says.

The fact that I have had many theists resist entering into moral argument of their God indicates that they know that their God is immoral. I can appreciate that once a person accepts the fellowship that his tribal nature seeks, and he can survive without having better morals, he is loath to jeopardize the comfort zone he has created for himself. The problem is that theists are living in self-deception and for one who seeks or has attained Gnosis, a deeper knowing of himself, self-deception is basically not allowed. That is why I have to bother fighting a fight that is almost un-winnable.

If you have an answer to the question I posed at the onset, please enlighten me as I am quite disappointed to see so many living in self-deception and without Gnosis, and following Gods who are demonstrably more Satan like than God like.

In the terrible days that we will face from environmental degradation that will soon be upon us, a new and moral God will be required and we presently do not have one.

I recognize that our tribal and fellowship needs are quite strong and a part of our basic instincts. Do you have any idea as to how we can break Satan’s hold on Christians, Muslims and Jews and change their fellowship and tribal needs to a need for a God with decent moral values?

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Re: Do Republicans and pedophile priests share the same vile sexual morality.

Post by Lúthien » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:27 pm

Hey, I'm sorry for the delay.
I was in a traffic accident with my bike, resulting in a fractured wrist so that I can't do much for some weeks. I can type with my left hand but it's slow.

So excuse my being a bit brief in answering to your post. I think that immoral behaviour in cases such as these has very little to do with the field (politics pr religion), but with the fact that they happen in social structures that allow people to get away with it. In that sense there is no difference at all between churches, political organisations or even scientific ones: as soon as the group dynamics dominate over individual moral considerations there's the risk of things derailing.
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Post by Gnostic Bishop » Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:12 pm

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I hear you and agree to an extent but if this link is true, then the more right one is in his thinking, brain dead thinking to me, then the propensity for the right wingers to lie about their true nature is quite strong as compared to the left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLulcfyqrc0

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Post by Lúthien » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:46 am

Can’t watch the video right now but I think there’s research that shows that the main difference between (very) conservative and (very) progressive people is in how they feel about what’s unfamiliar. It seems to scare conservative people more easily while progressive folk tend to be just interested.

But that’s of course a huge generalisation, and that’s exactly what we should avoid getting stuck in ;)
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Re: Do Republicans and pedophile priests share the same vile sexual morality.

Post by Gnostic Bishop » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:53 am

Lúthien wrote:
Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:46 am
Can’t watch the video right now but I think there’s research that shows that the main difference between (very) conservative and (very) progressive people is in how they feel about what’s unfamiliar. It seems to scare conservative people more easily while progressive folk tend to be just interested.

But that’s of course a huge generalisation, and that’s exactly what we should avoid getting stuck in ;)
Some generalities can be applied to most who are right or left. Sociologists do and they are the experts.

I have some links somewhere on this. Let me know if you want to apply about 1 and a 1/2 to 2 hours on watching Jonathan Haigt.

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